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Best expansion packs - just my two cents

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Good day,

I’ve seen the question in the FAQ: “What are the best expansion packs?” and the answer is of course that that will differ for each player and the goal of their game.

However, just my two cents, after playing Oolite for a week or so now, I think these expansion packs are really invaluable. They make the game or GUI significantly better:

Ambience, “Distant Suns”. No monstrous white sun no more. What a relief.

Ambience, “Docking Fees”. This expansion pack makes the game a little harder, especially in the beginning, but I think to charge visitors for coming to a station is fair and the welcoming story after docking is always funny enough.

Equipment, “Cargo Spotter”. Without this expansion pack it’s extremely hard to scoop drifting space cargo as this cargo, especially under specific lighting conditions, can hardly be seen. An invaluable add-on.

Equipment, “Weapon Laws”. This add-on makes the game a little harder, as specific “bad” equipment can only be bought from “bad” systems. A honest solution I think.

Mechanics, “Start Choices”. Just to experience how it feels to trade with nothing more than a bare Adder. I like that a lot.

Miscellaneous, “Equipment Remove Color”. Helps to avoid to remove your Military Shield Enhancement by accident by giving the remove options in the <F3> screen a red instead of a yellow color. Phew.

Systems, “Market Observer”. Replaces the <F8> screen with a screen where, among other data, the average price and the purchase price can be seen. Whether or not you’re going to make a profit can rather easily be determined at your station of departure.

A huge “Thank you!” from me to the makers - your efforts are much appreciated.

Cheers,

Robert.
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RGVV wrote:
Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:41 pm
Good day,

I’ve seen the question in the FAQ: “What are the best expansion packs?” and the answer is of course that that will differ for each player and the goal of their game.

However, just my two cents, after playing Oolite for a week or so now, I think these expansion packs are really invaluable. They make the game or GUI significantly better:

Ambience, “Distant Suns”. No monstrous white sun no more. What a relief.

Ambience, “Docking Fees”. This expansion pack makes the game a little harder, especially in the beginning, but I think to charge visitors for coming to a station is fair and the welcoming story after docking is always funny enough.

Equipment, “Cargo Spotter”. Without this expansion pack it’s extremely hard to scoop drifting space cargo as this cargo, especially under specific lighting conditions, can hardly be seen. An invaluable add-on.

Equipment, “Weapon Laws”. This add-on makes the game a little harder, as specific “bad” equipment can only be bought from “bad” systems. A honest solution I think.

Mechanics, “Start Choices”. Just to experience how it feels to trade with nothing more than a bare Adder. I like that a lot.

Miscellaneous, “Equipment Remove Color”. Helps to avoid to remove your Military Shield Enhancement by accident by giving the remove options in the <F3> screen a red instead of a yellow color. Phew.

Systems, “Market Observer”. Replaces the <F8> screen with a screen where, among other data, the average price and the purchase price can be seen. Whether or not you’re going to make a profit can rather easily be determined at your station of departure.

A huge “Thank you!” from me to the makers - your efforts are much appreciated.

Cheers,

Robert.
Just to ask: how many of the expansion packs have you tried out? For example, did you try Headlights as well as Cargo Spotter? Or Distant Stars as well as Distant Suns?

And ... are these oxps much different from what you used when you were using the Power PC? (How long ago was that? The last Power PC came out in 2006, when Aegidian stepped down!)
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I don't know how many expansion packs I've tried out. I've read the descriptions on the website and in the Oolite wiki over and over again and eventually decided which could suit me. I haven't tried out "Head Lights" and "Distant Stars".

I liked the "New Cargoes" expansion pack a great lot, however, I was in an Adder (from the expansion pack "Start Choices"), and I discovered that a couple of times the total tonnage of the cargo bay was faulty. After installing the expansion pack the cargo bay increased from 5 tons to 8 tons capacity. After a couple of launches the size decreased from 8 tons to 5 tons again (with an inevitable loss of cargo). Later, when trading and launching and traveling some more, the capacity increased from 5 tons to 7 tons again. I think this is a bug so I de-installed it. Really a shame because I think "New Cargoes" is the best cargo expansion pack there is - it makes trade much more difficult but also more interesting.

On the Power PC, at that time I wasn't really aware of the existence of expansion packs, because there was no expansion pack manager yet and I didn't bother back then.
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Shameless plug for ambience/equipment:
http://deephorizonindustries.com/Advanc ... puter.html

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Cmd. Cheyd wrote:
Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:06 am
Shameless plug for ambience/equipment:
http://deephorizonindustries.com/Advanc ... puter.html
Trying to work out your .oxps:

* Deep Horizon - Systems v2.0.8 (Beta)- Updated 3/2/2011
* Deep Horizon - Light Down v1.1- Updated 3/2/2011

Does Systems work or has it been clobbered by the newer variants?

Does it map all of Galaxy One or just provide planet textures randomly? Is it finished?

Does it allow Lave.oxp/Riredi.oxp/Diso.oxp & Tianve.oxp to do their things, or does it nip them in the bud?
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Which other OXPs does Light Down conflict with?
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A bit tangential, but there's a streamer named "opensource_gaming" on Twitch ( https://www.twitch.tv/opensource_gaming ) who plays and shows, well, open source games. He does not have a large number of viewers usually, but it is one way to promote Oolite.

But I think (didn't launched a vanilla Oolite recently) that bare-bones Oolite can be a bit disappointing (well, open source fans know that they can't expect AAA games, although a few FOSS games, including Oolite, went a long way), so if we wanted him to try Oolite, what would be the least effort and maximum effect minimal expansion packs set ? Let's say 5 max (cause 5 fingers..). From memory I would say:

- BGS (ambiance)
- Dangerous HUD (because this one has the best "wow" effect as far as I recall - and seeing some sort of cockpit in a ship is generally expected)
- Norby's engine sound (that the sound of your engine varies according to power is generally expected)
- Blackmonks (because of the nice looking extra station, ships, and general great humor)
- perhaps multiple lasers or some advantageous piece of equipment.

Of course, there are tons of other good ones (commies, YAH and constores, ...), but the idea is to give something to have fun with for a couple of hours, and perhaps make things a bit easier (because the guy shares his attention between the game and the chat during streaming).

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Tangentializing further...

Might it be nice if Your Ad Here included more advertisments for other oxps?

Even if it were only at the witchpoint buoy (and the solitary installed oxp) then you would have in-game advertisements/hints to other oxps: you'd learn about them as you play; becoming increasingly aware of the range and depth of what awaits via the download manager.

Of course some oxps might lend themselves to this approach better than others but then it's not a competition. Just a catchprase and a short blurb, it wouldn't even need a picture and (crucially) would remain merely background 'fluff' until the player acted upon (installed) it.
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