Griff's normalmapped ship remakes

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Those wear-n-tear shaders are amazing!

Can't wait to see the bundles on the manager, especially the ship bundles :)

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Very nice effect (as always), Griff!

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Looks awesome Griff! :D

I've been waiting for this since that first post showcasing the basic idea (last year???)
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Griff wrote: OK, I think this is done, the station bundle should now be up on the manager!
Confirmed. Would just like to see the Ship bundles up also.

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The Hognose is an entertaining ship, no matter whether it's a holy joe or a lobstoid, but it does get stuck right outside the docking slot a lot - intentional?
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Re: Griff's normalmapped ship remakes

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Cody wrote:The Hognose is an entertaining ship, no matter whether it's a holy joe or a lobstoid, but it does get stuck right outside the docking slot a lot - intentional?
No that's no intentional - does it happen when it's trying to dock or something? It could be its speed and turning rate stats making it difficult for it to dock...

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	max_flight_pitch = 0.5;
	max_flight_roll = 0.5;
	max_flight_speed = 80;
The hogonose also has some custom AI's that i've copied over from Dr. Nil's original Hognose OXP, that must be going back quite a bit now - maybe they need an update or something? - i'll have a look at the current Oolite AI's and see if i can cobble together a new hognose AI based on those, they're so hilarious i'd love to try and keep them in the oxp :lol:

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Happens when trying to dock, and after launching - many a time I've had to give it a nudge to move it along.
Griff wrote:they're so hilarious i'd love to try and keep them in the oxp
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Just had a quick look at the Hognose AI's, I think i can see what's going on (mind you my Artificial Intelligence ability is even lower than my Actual Intelligence ability)
The Witchspace Lobster AI ("griff_hognose_(Dr_Nil_worm_missionary03)AI.plist") has an AI that looks like it's set to make the ship loiter at a random point outside the station broadcasting greetings and the 'Zenarchy Monk' has an AI that immediately performs a 'hold position', then stops in a state where it scans for the player before continuing, it might be this one that's getting stuck?. The other two types of hognose fly straight for the planet for a short distance before switching to the more crazy AI stuff - maybe if i transplant that behaviour in it'll be an OK fix
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ah sweet, there looks like there's a bit in scavengerAI.plist that's perfect for moving the ship out into space away from the station:

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GLOBAL =
	{
		"LAUNCHED OKAY" = ("setStateTo: CLEAR_STATION");
		UPDATE = ("setSpeedFactorTo: 1.0", "setStateTo: LOOK_FOR_STUFF");
	};

"CLEAR_STATION" = {
		ENTER = (getWitchspaceEntryCoordinates, setDestinationFromCoordinates, "setDesiredRangeTo: 100.0",
			"setSpeedFactorTo: 0.75", performFlyToRangeFromDestination, "pauseAI: 10");
		UPDATE = ("setStateTo: LOOK_FOR_STUFF");
	};
i think if i then switch the LOOK_FOR_STUFF code to the 'Monk AI' stuff then we should be back in business with all the crazy oddness intact :)

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Great! As is their wont, one of the Lobstoids attacked me in an aegis last night - and suddenly I became the offender, with everyone and their dog attacking me!
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Re: Griff's normalmapped ship remakes

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I've tweaked the AI on the two hognose versions that looked like they might get stuck in the dock and re-uploaded the oxp to box now at (v1.3.1).
I've also had a go at putting all the new wear n' tear ships up on the oxz manager (including the updated hognose)

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oolite.oxp.Griff.Bug_(Elite2).oxz
oolite.oxp.Griff.Gnat_(Elite2).oxz
oolite.oxp.Griff.Griff_shipset_decals.oxz
oolite.oxp.Griff.Griffin1_(Elite2).oxz
oolite.oxp.Griff.Hognose.oxz
oolite.oxp.Griff.Ophidian_(EliteA).oxz
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Re: Griff's normalmapped ship remakes

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The Hognose is still blocking the docking queue occasionly - it comes to a dead stop within warning distance of the slot, maybe performs a tumble or two. Give it a nudge, and it panics. They do look terrific though, especially right up-close - that new wear 'n tear paintjob is rather cool.
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Re: Griff's normalmapped ship remakes

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It looks like the normalmap is inverted on the old version Cobra Mk.3, at least in my setup.
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Old version Cobra Mk.1 seems to have the same problem. Maybe, all the old versions of the ships?

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This is for Griff (and Gibbon who did the conversion of Griff's models into Freelancer)

Ship gallery of Griff's models in Freelancer:
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Re: Griff's normalmapped ship remakes

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@Stormprooter - That looks awesome - thanks for using the ships in your project they look great!

I've uploaded to box an alternative Viper Interceptor oxp. It's got quite a high polygon count (about 7000 tri's). Hit a few snags building the model so it's only got two engines and a pretty feeble looking 'emergency lights' thingy - completely forgot to work that into the model so had to fiddle about with the texture to try and free up a map for the effect. :|

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It didn't look quite right with three engines so i've only put two on, in hindsight that seems to be a bit of a mistake, it's always handy to spot the interceptors in game from the three engine plumes, i dunno, it just looked odd on this ship - here's mockup from earlier on in the model building, it just looks a bit odd that strip of three engines. maybe should have worked harder to include them though.
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Griff wrote:It didn't look quite right with three engines so i've only put two on, in hindsight that seems to be a bit of a mistake, it's always handy to spot the interceptors in game from the three engine plumes...
The old core Interceptor had a different body shape from the standard Viper, so you could easily tell them apart. Currently, the Interceptor has the same body shape as the standard Viper, but with three engines - again, easy to to tell the difference. It does need something, Griff - need to know which ship is which at distance.
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