Can't find derelict ships?

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Can't find derelict ships?

Post by IWantABoa » Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:01 am

Hello. Recently I had found a python derelict, but had not been able to salvage it because I didn't have neither the TowBar OXP nor the Deep Space Dredgers OXP. Next day, I install them both and go on a pirate hunt, hoping to snatch a few derelicts from my battles. But to my dismay, all ships I killed were either honoured to die for their pirate unions or launched their escape pods a tad bit too late. I'm not sure what I am doing wrong. Does your laser matter? I have 3 military lasers on the front (TripleLasers OXP, or whatever it was called). Is there any OXP that adds a "salvage laser" of sorts? Or atleast an OXP that increases the chance of derelict ships? Have not encountered a single derelict ship after the incident with the python, which I unfortunately could not use to my advantage.

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Re: Can't find derelict ships?

Post by Disembodied » Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:08 am

Hi, IWantABoa, welcome to the boards. To create a derelict ship, you need to persuade the pilot to eject. Not all ships have escape pods, of course, but if you can push an opponent to the point where their ship is about to explode - balls of plasma can usually be seen leaking from their engines at this point - then you stand a good chance of forcing them to abandon their ship if they are able to do so.

The triple military laser may be making this a bit more difficult, simply because of the sheer power of the weapon. It's like trying to crack an egg: you need to tap it with a spoon, not shoot it with a shotgun! :)

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Re: Can't find derelict ships?

Post by Cody » Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:30 pm

What he said! When you've got a victim blowing plasma, you could try using the laser as a single-shot weapon.

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Re: Can't find derelict ships?

Post by montana05 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:42 pm

IWantABoa wrote:
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I have 3 military lasers on the front
Depending on the ship you are flying you might want to try http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/LaserCannons Some of the weapons there are forcing the pilots to eject rather than destroying them.
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Re: Can't find derelict ships?

Post by Nite Owl » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:55 pm

Within the Towbar.OXZ is a piece of equipment called the Laser Reductor. It is available at tech level 5 systems at a cost of 100 ₢. It reduces your laser's power if the targeted ship becomes derelict to save it from exploding after the pilot has ejected. It works well although there is no easy way to override the effect once you purchase it. In other words every ship that becomes a derelict will then only take laser fire at a reduced power level. This will limit you should you decide that you do not want to salvage a particular ship and would much rather blow it up. Generally your lasers will overheat before you can blow up a ship while firing on it at your laser's reduced power level. As time goes on and your experience grows it will become easier to visually and audibly figure out when to stop firing on a given ship after it has become a derelict without having to use the Laser Reductor. This final "experience" method is not always reliable but does, at the very least, give you options.

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Re: Can't find derelict ships?

Post by IWantABoa » Sun Jun 30, 2019 12:50 am

Thanks for the quick reply! I commandeer a Cobra Mark III which *could* be considered an "Iron Ass", but isn't quite yet. When my target does start throwing plasma here and there I do go for one shot per second, but even then it doesn't work. I am kind of reluctant to get a laser cannon since it may not help me in battles with large pirate groups and feels like a general downgrade, but if you strongly suggest so I may try it later. And, it seems a bit confusing to me and the vast list of choices of weaponry is rather overwhelming, I have no idea which to take... About the TowBar OXZ, I never really encountered anything related to it. I didn't see any equipment, and the WIKI failed to provide any answers.

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Re: Can't find derelict ships?

Post by montana05 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:33 am

IWantABoa wrote:
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I am kind of reluctant to get a laser cannon since it may not help me in battles with large pirate groups and feels like a general downgrade
I used energy cannons myself but on larger ships and together with http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Laser_ ... System_OXP so I could switch to a 2nd set for "daily use". In general the switching system proved to be very useful in every ship and carrier I tried.
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Re: Can't find derelict ships?

Post by Nite Owl » Sun Jun 30, 2019 8:08 am

Have a look HERE for specific information about the Laser Reductor. The other parts of that page will give you more insight into the other aspects of the Towbar.OXZ.
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Re: Can't find derelict ships?

Post by IWantABoa » Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:40 pm

Thanks for all your advice, appreciate it! The Laser Cannon are undeniably good, I was wrong about them being a downgrade. About the Laser Reductor, I haven't tried it, and don't think I will, actually.

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